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13 Jan 2014 23:52 #38685
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Then I am understanding it - I am only giving him 3.75 or 3 ml of the solution. My poor baby, the syringe I have says 12 ml and I was giving poor little Scot the full 12 ml the first 4 days.
He is much happier now with just such a small amount - then he gets 3 cookies as a treat after.
His cookies are: the small square shredded wheat, with no sugar. He loves them - also gets baby carrots for treats.
Thanks so much Pam - I surely do appreciate you and all your time helping us all.
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He is much happier now with just such a small amount - then he gets 3 cookies as a treat after.
His cookies are: the small square shredded wheat, with no sugar. He loves them - also gets baby carrots for treats.
Thanks so much Pam - I surely do appreciate you and all your time helping us all.
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14 Jan 2014 02:05 #38688
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Thanks for your suggestions Denise. Woofie is holding his own. No worse at least. I decided to keep trying. Going to use the CDH I made. How many drops should I use in how much liquid? Am at work all day so cannot give hourly but can get maybe 2 doses in him in the morning and 5 or 6 in evening.
How long will the CDH/liquid mixture last? Should I just make fresh each dose? Will update as I can. Thanks Denise, appreciate your input
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How long will the CDH/liquid mixture last? Should I just make fresh each dose? Will update as I can. Thanks Denise, appreciate your input
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Bonnie,
so glad you decided to keep trying.
CDH lasts a few weeks make sure you do refrigerate it once it sat 12hr in room temperature for the activation time. (I'll make 880ml batches at a time)
24drops CDH = 1ml = 1activated MMS drop. Not sure if you were giving Woofie 1/2drop in one dose or less but 1/2drop MMS would be 12drops of CDH. Make sure you mix the CDH with some water whatever amount you think he will take (mine usually wont take more than 3-4ml total in).
May I suggest since you do not seem to have lots of time in the morning, you could give him every 30min a CDH dose (since it is easier to handle than MMS this is possible) then in the evening do a few (3-4) 1/2hr doses then hourly the rest of the evening. Watching if symptoms get better or worse, if worse cut down on the amount of CDH in a dose but administer at least the hourly dose.
You also might want to make a spray for skin wound. I do 20activated MMS drops with 2oz of water. Anytime one of my little ones come up with a wound of some sorts I spray it on. I never used DMSO, but the wounds heel of very quick with just the MMS.
Hope this helps,
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so glad you decided to keep trying.
CDH lasts a few weeks make sure you do refrigerate it once it sat 12hr in room temperature for the activation time. (I'll make 880ml batches at a time)
24drops CDH = 1ml = 1activated MMS drop. Not sure if you were giving Woofie 1/2drop in one dose or less but 1/2drop MMS would be 12drops of CDH. Make sure you mix the CDH with some water whatever amount you think he will take (mine usually wont take more than 3-4ml total in).
May I suggest since you do not seem to have lots of time in the morning, you could give him every 30min a CDH dose (since it is easier to handle than MMS this is possible) then in the evening do a few (3-4) 1/2hr doses then hourly the rest of the evening. Watching if symptoms get better or worse, if worse cut down on the amount of CDH in a dose but administer at least the hourly dose.
You also might want to make a spray for skin wound. I do 20activated MMS drops with 2oz of water. Anytime one of my little ones come up with a wound of some sorts I spray it on. I never used DMSO, but the wounds heel of very quick with just the MMS.
Hope this helps,
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14 Jan 2014 03:18 #38697
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I am not real good at deciding drops and ml and all that. Looks like SevenRays or Pam can help you better with that.
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14 Jan 2014 18:30 #38732
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Pam told me how to make 1/2 drop for my dog - he is 15 lbs.
"You can make a dose any size. If it's 1 drop, activated in say - an oz of water, then just add half of this mixture to his water dish. Or if, you're making it for a syringe, again, make 1 drop, add the water and then throw half of it away" = 1/2 drop.
I don't toss out the water, I store it in the dark in a glass covered jar and then give it to him in his next dose. I actually am giving him a much smaller dose now - I take the above and then just take 3 or 3 1/2 ml (in my pet syringe) and give that to him.) dose each hr for at least 6 hrs a day.
He is not as sick as your little guy, but he is slowly improving - I can see the old spark coming back. Thank God for MMS and all the help out there.
God bless - I am blessed!
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"You can make a dose any size. If it's 1 drop, activated in say - an oz of water, then just add half of this mixture to his water dish. Or if, you're making it for a syringe, again, make 1 drop, add the water and then throw half of it away" = 1/2 drop.
I don't toss out the water, I store it in the dark in a glass covered jar and then give it to him in his next dose. I actually am giving him a much smaller dose now - I take the above and then just take 3 or 3 1/2 ml (in my pet syringe) and give that to him.) dose each hr for at least 6 hrs a day.
He is not as sick as your little guy, but he is slowly improving - I can see the old spark coming back. Thank God for MMS and all the help out there.
God bless - I am blessed!
Glenda
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17 Jan 2014 12:03 #38863
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Just a little update before I have to run out the door to work: Woofie is still hanging in there. So am I ! Have been giving him the MMS as often as possible, every 1/2 hour when I am home. I do not see a big improvement, but I also do not see a further decline! Thank God 
I have been putting the 12 drops of CDH in 1 oz of beef broth and give him 3cc at a time. Should I increase the amount of CDH drops and if so to how much?
I have to run for now, will check back later. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HELP.
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I have been putting the 12 drops of CDH in 1 oz of beef broth and give him 3cc at a time. Should I increase the amount of CDH drops and if so to how much?
I have to run for now, will check back later. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HELP.
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I believe 1 ml of CDH = 1 drop MMS. So I would check and see how many of your drops are required to make 1 ml. My guess is that a small increase probably wouldn't hurt. However, frequency is more important than a stronger dose given less frequently.
Ahh... Here we go Sevenrays said "24drops CDH = 1ml = 1activated MMS drop" I would try increasing his drops as you were giving him 12.
Ahh... Here we go Sevenrays said "24drops CDH = 1ml = 1activated MMS drop" I would try increasing his drops as you were giving him 12.
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18 Jan 2014 00:49 #38906
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My Scot was not nearly as sick as yours is, but as Jim said "its never too late to start them on MMS, even if they only had 2 hrs to live". I'm believing that healing will come to your little one, DON"T give up!. We are all pulling for you.
DOSAGE: When I increased the dose on my Lil Scot - to 13 ml, he seemed to get worse - I decreased it to 3 ml and he was doing better - then I tried increasing to 4 ml and he seemed to not be as good. - SO I went back to 3 ml and am holding it at that, but BEING SURE TO DO HOURLY DOSES, I'm doing at least 6 to 8 hrs a day - this for the last two days.
Vet thinks he has Chagas and Pam said on another post "topic - treating animals that Chagas was treated with MMS" My vet had told me that people never know when the pet has Chagas as they don't run temps - they just drop over dead. Thank God, that my scot was running a temp.
Praise God, his temp is holding normal and his appetite has increased - actually ate ALL his food tonight and has been playing tug o war with our female. Tail wags constantly now.
I thank God for MMS and all the wonderful people on the forum who have given me advice and encouragement.
Together we will overcome!
DOSAGE: When I increased the dose on my Lil Scot - to 13 ml, he seemed to get worse - I decreased it to 3 ml and he was doing better - then I tried increasing to 4 ml and he seemed to not be as good. - SO I went back to 3 ml and am holding it at that, but BEING SURE TO DO HOURLY DOSES, I'm doing at least 6 to 8 hrs a day - this for the last two days.
Vet thinks he has Chagas and Pam said on another post "topic - treating animals that Chagas was treated with MMS" My vet had told me that people never know when the pet has Chagas as they don't run temps - they just drop over dead. Thank God, that my scot was running a temp.
Praise God, his temp is holding normal and his appetite has increased - actually ate ALL his food tonight and has been playing tug o war with our female. Tail wags constantly now.
I thank God for MMS and all the wonderful people on the forum who have given me advice and encouragement.
Together we will overcome!
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First of all thank you for taking your time and being so supportive of me and my Woofie. You are so sweet. I am so happy that your little Scot is doing well and hopefully on the road to complete recovery. I had to go look up Chagas to see what it even is, never heard of it! Was shocked to read about it and find out it is another disease caused by an infection,from an insect! It sounds very scary. Thank God you were so observant and got him checked when you did. What was the treatment the Vet put him on medically? I am assuming antibiotics and pred like they did for my Woofie. How long ago was he diagnosed and did you use the meds before starting MMS or did u do both at same time?
I too am so grateful for coming upon this site and this forum and all the help and support I have and am receiving here. I truly believe that God sent me here.
As far as the latest on Woofie, and his progress, I think I am seeing an improvement. He ate better tonight than he has been. Barked at someone at the door which he hasn't been doing for a while. Not sure if I mentioned that he now is losing his toenails in addition to crusty type sores on feet, belly, ears and around his eyes and on snout. I cannot believe that this insidious disease is attacking this little guy so viciously! But due to the nails falling off, it prompted me to do more research and I came upon what I believe may be the problem in addition to the Lymes. He has ALL the symptoms of what is called Zinc Responsive Dermatitis or ZRD. I am so excited and am planning to present this info to my vet. My hope is that by continuing with the MMS protocol and adding zinc supplements, we may have a chance of helping me get my little guy back to an acceptable quality of life. I increased the CDH to 20 drops in a couple oz of broth and am still dosing it in 3 ml doses every 1/2 to 1 hr. I am happy it is the weekend and I will be able to get more regular doses in him. I have now started him on zinc supplements also. Sorry this so long, just had to share this new info and would love to hear if anyone has heard of the ZRD or had experience with it? I will be sure to keep Scot in my prayers with my Woofie. Thanks again. Bonnie
I too am so grateful for coming upon this site and this forum and all the help and support I have and am receiving here. I truly believe that God sent me here.
As far as the latest on Woofie, and his progress, I think I am seeing an improvement. He ate better tonight than he has been. Barked at someone at the door which he hasn't been doing for a while. Not sure if I mentioned that he now is losing his toenails in addition to crusty type sores on feet, belly, ears and around his eyes and on snout. I cannot believe that this insidious disease is attacking this little guy so viciously! But due to the nails falling off, it prompted me to do more research and I came upon what I believe may be the problem in addition to the Lymes. He has ALL the symptoms of what is called Zinc Responsive Dermatitis or ZRD. I am so excited and am planning to present this info to my vet. My hope is that by continuing with the MMS protocol and adding zinc supplements, we may have a chance of helping me get my little guy back to an acceptable quality of life. I increased the CDH to 20 drops in a couple oz of broth and am still dosing it in 3 ml doses every 1/2 to 1 hr. I am happy it is the weekend and I will be able to get more regular doses in him. I have now started him on zinc supplements also. Sorry this so long, just had to share this new info and would love to hear if anyone has heard of the ZRD or had experience with it? I will be sure to keep Scot in my prayers with my Woofie. Thanks again. Bonnie
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Bonnie - Praise God, so glad to hear of Woofie's bit of improvement, just a bark is major. That is one of the things I looked for and see in Scot - just the little things that they used to not do and even if its only a couple barks or tail wags, it tells me there is a bit of improvement. Just touching one of his toys is great also. So wish they could talk and tell us things, but the wags and etc. is how they talk, another thing I watched in Scot was for the sparkle, to return to his eyes.
I had never heard of Chagas either, still haven't taken the time to look it up on the internet.
Yes the vet that did his sonogram said something about it (asked if we lived around brush - we are S TX where the mesquites and purple sage are. told him I did NOT have mesquite brush in my yard (just 3 trees - which are trimmed all the time, but did have purple sage that I had planted as a hedge on 2 sides of my yard, asked him if that counted, he said yes, so I came home and cut them out and killed them too.
The vet that told me (after an internal Med Specialist analysed all his tests and sonogram) that he probably had Chagas - to confirm it they would have to do another $90 blood test this time and check his blood pressure. She told me it was a parasite, that attacked the heart and was VERY VERY expensive to treat. I said, OH if a parasite, MMS will fix it. I have spent so much already, don't have more to spend and they couldn't help it anyway - would just use the MMS (I had told her about it already and that I was putting him on it, even though they don't believe in things like that, but I think Scot will make a believer out of her, after the MMS heals him. One thing she told me was that no one had ever heard of chagas causing a high temp (which was the reason I took him to the vet to begin with), that animals with chagas will just drop over dead, no warning given.
My vet was just treating his temp (blood showed an infection - no one knew from where) all his tests, xrays, etc. were perfect, blood showed all organs good - they had him on 3 different antibiotics, even did a $200 test to test for tick fever - then when they had given up, sent me for sonogram on the abdomen area. I noticed that he wasn't as playful, appetite bad on Dec. 23rd - Just one week after I had found out about and ordered MMS for me. I DID NOT start him on MMS right away, as he was on all the antibiotics, was so new at MMS couldn't figure out if he could take it with them and couldn't figure out how much to dose him. I should have started him RIGHT away, even with the antibiotics, know that now and how to do, but thank God I didn't wait any longer and thank God for Pam and all the others who gave me advice and told me how to dose him.
Last night Scot ate ALL his dinner and played tug o war with our female. He hasn't done that for a long time. I know he's still not perfect, but if I have to dose him every day of his life, I will do so.
Your little Woofie is so much worse than my little Scot, I am glad of even a bit of improvement in him, it shows the MMS is working. Just don't get tired or discouraged, keep the faith. I have never heard of ZRD or ever heard of a dogs nails falling off. Poor little
guy. I'm sure someone will respond, or else do a new topic of ZRD.
God bless you and don't worry about a long response, sometimes you just CANNOT say things you want to say in a few words. And as the forum says, (in my words - things that you say may be of interest to many others and can and will help others). You and Woofie are in our prayers. PLEASE post often about his progress, I am very interested.
Glenda
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I had never heard of Chagas either, still haven't taken the time to look it up on the internet.
Yes the vet that did his sonogram said something about it (asked if we lived around brush - we are S TX where the mesquites and purple sage are. told him I did NOT have mesquite brush in my yard (just 3 trees - which are trimmed all the time, but did have purple sage that I had planted as a hedge on 2 sides of my yard, asked him if that counted, he said yes, so I came home and cut them out and killed them too.
The vet that told me (after an internal Med Specialist analysed all his tests and sonogram) that he probably had Chagas - to confirm it they would have to do another $90 blood test this time and check his blood pressure. She told me it was a parasite, that attacked the heart and was VERY VERY expensive to treat. I said, OH if a parasite, MMS will fix it. I have spent so much already, don't have more to spend and they couldn't help it anyway - would just use the MMS (I had told her about it already and that I was putting him on it, even though they don't believe in things like that, but I think Scot will make a believer out of her, after the MMS heals him. One thing she told me was that no one had ever heard of chagas causing a high temp (which was the reason I took him to the vet to begin with), that animals with chagas will just drop over dead, no warning given.
My vet was just treating his temp (blood showed an infection - no one knew from where) all his tests, xrays, etc. were perfect, blood showed all organs good - they had him on 3 different antibiotics, even did a $200 test to test for tick fever - then when they had given up, sent me for sonogram on the abdomen area. I noticed that he wasn't as playful, appetite bad on Dec. 23rd - Just one week after I had found out about and ordered MMS for me. I DID NOT start him on MMS right away, as he was on all the antibiotics, was so new at MMS couldn't figure out if he could take it with them and couldn't figure out how much to dose him. I should have started him RIGHT away, even with the antibiotics, know that now and how to do, but thank God I didn't wait any longer and thank God for Pam and all the others who gave me advice and told me how to dose him.
Last night Scot ate ALL his dinner and played tug o war with our female. He hasn't done that for a long time. I know he's still not perfect, but if I have to dose him every day of his life, I will do so.
Your little Woofie is so much worse than my little Scot, I am glad of even a bit of improvement in him, it shows the MMS is working. Just don't get tired or discouraged, keep the faith. I have never heard of ZRD or ever heard of a dogs nails falling off. Poor little
guy. I'm sure someone will respond, or else do a new topic of ZRD.
God bless you and don't worry about a long response, sometimes you just CANNOT say things you want to say in a few words. And as the forum says, (in my words - things that you say may be of interest to many others and can and will help others). You and Woofie are in our prayers. PLEASE post often about his progress, I am very interested.
Glenda
P. S. talk about Long - yours was short in comparison to mine.
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