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How important is sealed activation of MMS1?
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21 Feb 2014 22:45 - 21 Feb 2014 23:04 #40292
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How important is sealed activation of MMS1? was created by windsurffrek
On a scale of 1 to 10 how important is not allowing the gas to escape during activation of MMS1?
In other words... I remember seeing a three-minute activation in Jim's original videos before adding water and it still seemed to work pretty good in healing disease.
It seems pretty powerful, even at the three-minute activation.
Does it really lose that much power at killing germs?
In other words... I remember seeing a three-minute activation in Jim's original videos before adding water and it still seemed to work pretty good in healing disease.
It seems pretty powerful, even at the three-minute activation.
Does it really lose that much power at killing germs?
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21 Feb 2014 22:55 #40294
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If you're trying to produce CDH - it's a 10 
CDH is a activation process which reduces taste and nausea.
If you're not concerned about those aspects - then activating MMS the old fashioned way (open container) produces a dose that has help heal 1000's
CDH is a activation process which reduces taste and nausea.
If you're not concerned about those aspects - then activating MMS the old fashioned way (open container) produces a dose that has help heal 1000's
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21 Feb 2014 22:59 #40296
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But isn't nausea a sign that it is killing germs and your nauseous because of germs coming out pretty quickly?
Which brings to my mind the question......maybe if you're not getting nausea your not killing germs?
Which brings to my mind the question......maybe if you're not getting nausea your not killing germs?
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21 Feb 2014 23:15 #40298
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You can be killing pathogens without nausea - and that is what Jim recommends. Killing pathogens faster than your body can eliminate them causes nausea.
If you are, as your user name implies - a windsurfer - you may have seen a beginner surfer march down to the water with his equipment determined to show the wind who's boss. 20 minutes later , he struggles ashore beaten up by the wind. You can harness the power of the wind - if you learn to finesse the power - and sail - not if you demand it comply.
Same with MMS - if you blast into nausea - you will develop an aversion to taking doses and eventually quit.
If you are, as your user name implies - a windsurfer - you may have seen a beginner surfer march down to the water with his equipment determined to show the wind who's boss. 20 minutes later , he struggles ashore beaten up by the wind. You can harness the power of the wind - if you learn to finesse the power - and sail - not if you demand it comply.
Same with MMS - if you blast into nausea - you will develop an aversion to taking doses and eventually quit.
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21 Feb 2014 23:29 #40301
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I understand that concept.
I'm only asking the question that if killing pathogen faster than your body can eliminate causes nausea... maybe the other versions of MMS are not killing pathogen in the same way as the original MMS1.
I'm only asking the question that if killing pathogen faster than your body can eliminate causes nausea... maybe the other versions of MMS are not killing pathogen in the same way as the original MMS1.
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22 Feb 2014 00:11 #40303
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Yes killing pathogens faster than you can eliminate them causes nausea - it's called : herxhiemer effect
There's tons of references to it on the forum do a search for "herx"
There's tons of references to it on the forum do a search for "herx"
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22 Feb 2014 00:54 #40305
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There could be other reasons for nausea, upset stomach, diarrhea, etc.
One is some people do not tolerate citric acid very well and we know that classic MMS is not fully activated when ingested. So, some SC and acid remain in the MMS. More activation is suspected to occur inside the body including using some stomach HCL to do that, if one has any HCL.
Another is the unreacted SC in classic MMS may bother some. Ask Scott about that idea. He tested it on himself and did not do well.
CDS and CDH should remove the SC question as CDS should only contain CLO2 and CDH is usually very activated with little SC or acid remaining in solution. Using HCL may also help with reducing nausea, etc.
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If CLO2 is the main killer, then MMS/CDS/CDH should all work equally well.I'm only asking the question that if killing pathogen faster than your body can eliminate causes nausea... maybe the other versions of MMS are not killing pathogen in the same way as the original MMS1.
There could be other reasons for nausea, upset stomach, diarrhea, etc.
One is some people do not tolerate citric acid very well and we know that classic MMS is not fully activated when ingested. So, some SC and acid remain in the MMS. More activation is suspected to occur inside the body including using some stomach HCL to do that, if one has any HCL.
Another is the unreacted SC in classic MMS may bother some. Ask Scott about that idea. He tested it on himself and did not do well.
CDS and CDH should remove the SC question as CDS should only contain CLO2 and CDH is usually very activated with little SC or acid remaining in solution. Using HCL may also help with reducing nausea, etc.
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22 Feb 2014 01:11 #40306
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CDS & CDH are made in a closed containers. Making One Bottle CDH should retain the most CLO2 compared to the CDH Two Bottle Method and CDS made either using the overnight method or the heating/tubing/bottles/body-protection/forced-ventilation method.
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If CLO2 is the main killer, then it would make sense to generate as much as possible and in the process, not allow any to escape. Activating in an open topped container allows some, don't know how much, CLO2 gas to escape.How important is sealed activation?
CDS & CDH are made in a closed containers. Making One Bottle CDH should retain the most CLO2 compared to the CDH Two Bottle Method and CDS made either using the overnight method or the heating/tubing/bottles/body-protection/forced-ventilation method.
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