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14 May 2014 18:58 #44397 by postmarkedheaven
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I'm not really into defending mms for its own sake because the results speak for themselves, but to better know all I can about body chemistry and how the body heals at a molecular level so I can ease others fears about stepping out of their allopathic comfort zone. Btw, I love to learn!
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14 May 2014 19:06 - 14 May 2014 19:09 #44398 by Tomas
I am afraid that the sceptics might be true. Look at this article:
Subchronic toxicity of chlorine dioxide and related compounds in drinking water in the nonhuman primate.

Especially this paragraph:
In Vivo Deactivation of ClO2 in the Gastric Space
A 5.7 kg male animal was lightly sedated after an overnight fast and immobilized in a monkey-chair. The animal's stomach was intubated via the oro- pharyngeal route, and an aliquot of 30 ml ClO2 (60 mg/l.) solution was instilled into the gastric space with a glass syringe. Immediately after discharg- ing, a 15 ml aliquot of the solution was withdrawn, and its total oxidizing capacity (sum of ClO2, ClO2- and part of ClO3) was determined (within 5 min) by iodometry at pH 1.0. Of the original ClO2 equiva- lent oxidizing titer, 8% was recovered after 5 min of total contact time. Because of turbidity, spectro- photometry could not be used to quantitate unchanged ClO2.

The problem is that chlorine dioxide is very reactive and readily reacts with organic stuff in the stomach.
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14 May 2014 19:20 #44400 by fourfingerz
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Tomas wrote: I am afraid that the sceptics might be true. Look at this article:
Subchronic toxicity of chlorine dioxide and related compounds in drinking water in the nonhuman primate.

Especially this paragraph:
In Vivo Deactivation of ClO2 in the Gastric Space
A 5.7 kg male animal was lightly sedated after an overnight fast and immobilized in a monkey-chair. The animal's stomach was intubated via the oro- pharyngeal route, and an aliquot of 30 ml ClO2 (60 mg/l.) solution was instilled into the gastric space with a glass syringe. Immediately after discharg- ing, a 15 ml aliquot of the solution was withdrawn, and its total oxidizing capacity (sum of ClO2, ClO2- and part of ClO3) was determined (within 5 min) by iodometry at pH 1.0. Of the original ClO2 equiva- lent oxidizing titer, 8% was recovered after 5 min of total contact time. Because of turbidity, spectro- photometry could not be used to quantitate unchanged ClO2.

The problem is that chlorine dioxide is very reactive and readily reacts with organic stuff in the stomach.


I would not trust any information gathered by doing that to an animal (who does not have the capability of volunteering) any more than I would trust the information gathered from a human that was water boarded. These "scientists" are psychopaths in lab coats - committing atrocities in the quest for "knowledge" (yeah right!!)

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15 May 2014 11:15 #44413 by gjplaceres
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Tomas wrote: I am afraid that the sceptics might be true. Look at this article:
Subchronic toxicity of chlorine dioxide and related compounds in drinking water in the nonhuman primate.

Especially this paragraph:
In Vivo Deactivation of ClO2 in the Gastric Space
A 5.7 kg male animal was lightly sedated after an overnight fast and immobilized in a monkey-chair. The animal's stomach was intubated via the oro- pharyngeal route, and an aliquot of 30 ml ClO2 (60 mg/l.) solution was instilled into the gastric space with a glass syringe. Immediately after discharg- ing, a 15 ml aliquot of the solution was withdrawn, and its total oxidizing capacity (sum of ClO2, ClO2- and part of ClO3) was determined (within 5 min) by iodometry at pH 1.0. Of the original ClO2 equiva- lent oxidizing titer, 8% was recovered after 5 min of total contact time. Because of turbidity, spectro- photometry could not be used to quantitate unchanged ClO2.

The problem is that chlorine dioxide is very reactive and readily reacts with organic stuff in the stomach.


Is well know that HCL is present in the stomach at .1 to .16 molar or .5% This amount is enough to activate SC. If you have organic matter in your stomach the CL02 gas can react with them. Also the temperature of the stomach make the SC react almost immediately. If a person drink SC equivalent to 6 drops with sugar (white sugar) the sugar will activate the production of HCL making the SC activate and dissipate inside of the wall of the stomach. The reaction is slow for sugar so give enough time for the CL02 to leave before react with the digestion of the sugar. I test this process over and over for three week already without side effect. My stomach is clean when do this process.

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16 May 2014 01:35 #44431 by postmarkedheaven
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Gregorio, can you give me some of the websites you go to so I can get some of the info you know. I do not have time to find good ones. Also, what are approved spokespersons of mms? What is the standard/filter for mms information?

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16 May 2014 02:37 #44433 by gjplaceres
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postmarkedheaven wrote: Gregorio, can you give me some of the websites you go to so I can get some of the info you know. I do not have time to find good ones. Also, what are approved spokespersons of mms? What is the standard/filter for mms information?

I will love to help you. But this is not my house, and I have to play by the rules of this house I don't want problem with the managers. Also remember I'm a chemist. MMS is like be in my paradise. When I have dough I just use the biggest library Google. Key words Half Life, Secondary Effect, dissolution test, mix those key words with the main search.
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16 May 2014 13:44 #44452 by postmarkedheaven
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Okay, will try those search terms. Also, maybe Chemistry for Dummies? Idiots guide to Chemistry? :)

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16 May 2014 13:51 #44453 by gjplaceres
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postmarkedheaven wrote: Okay, will try those search terms. Also, maybe Chemistry for Dummies? Idiots guide to Chemistry? :)


Thank you for understand. I have a question, in another post for your father in law, you said something about VItamin C and Veins. Can we talk about that. Im using MMS against cholesterol and is working like a charm, but if VItamin C can restablish the damage left by Cholesterol will be another decision to make.

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16 May 2014 15:39 #44455 by pam
Jim mentions that in passing in his book, GJP - page 84 in the book.

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16 May 2014 20:30 #44461 by gjplaceres
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pam wrote: Jim mentions that in passing in his book, GJP - page 84 in the book.


Thank you Pam. I check and is a testimony for allergies. We talk about cholesterol and the effect of Vitamin C in the wall of the arteries.

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