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09 Jan 2018 14:18 #57235 by MWMW11
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Our cat has squamous cell carcinoma and we have been treating her with MMS+DMSO for a few days now.

As she weighs only 3kg, we have been giving her 1.0ml of a drop (MMS+DMSO) both orally (with syringe) and topically (with spray bottle) at the same time. She seemed to have livened up a bit a couple days ago, but now it's Day 3 and she is looking absolutely terrible and her nose seems to have swollen and the cancer seems to have actually spread much larger!

Are we doing anything wrong? We are following instructions for Protocol 1000 for animals that weigh about 3kg... Is it possible to be overdoing it with the spray bottle? We are giving her the topical and oral dose together every hour for 8 hours a day.

I have attached a photo of how bad it now looks, any help or advice would be appreciated please as we don't want to make the cancer even worse! Is it possible the MMS+DMSO is making this worse?

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10 Jan 2018 00:47 #57242 by CLO2
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I would reduce dosage 50% and see what happens. The combination of both ingested and topical MMS may be too much for her.

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11 Jan 2018 09:47 #57270 by MWMW11
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Thank you for your reply, we have decided to give her a 4 day break from topical altogether (while still going as normal with oral). Then we will start back up for 3 days next week, then give her another 4 day break. Do you think this would be a balanced amount for her to have?

Could you also tell me if 70% DMSO solution needs to be further diluted before being sprayed on its own onto the skin out of a spray bottle? Will spraying the direct 70% DMSO solution onto the skin burn or damage it, or do you add extra water to the 70% DMSO for topical?

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11 Jan 2018 10:23 #57271 by CLO2
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Dosing only via ingestion for a period might tell you if she is getting too much CLO2 when both methods are used.

How much to dilute DMSO is a hard call if the patient can't tell you if it is irritating her skin. The more you dilute with additional water the less effective DMSO becomes.

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11 Jan 2018 15:45 #57273 by MWMW11
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Thanks, you've been really helpful.

I just have one more questions please - when we begin the topical application of MMS1+DMSO again, would you recommend mixing the MMS1+DMSO together inside one spray bottle and spraying it on her skin? Or would you recommend spraying the MMS1 from one separate spray bottle on her skin, then spraying the DMSO from a separate spray bottle ON TOP? (we have been doing the former up until now).

It's really things like this that can be confusing.. Your advice is appreciated

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11 Jan 2018 20:45 - 11 Jan 2018 20:48 #57276 by CLO2
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DMSO will slowly reduce CLO2 in MMS, so it is better to use separate containers.

You might also consider using undiluted CDS instead of MMS1. CDS is CLO2 in distilled water without any MMS or activator. You can keep CDS in a spray bottle for long periods especially if kept in a fridge. Will eliminate having to make MMS1 every day. CDH would also work and is very easy to make.

It would be good to know which one might be more effective.
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15 Jan 2018 09:53 #57326 by MWMW11
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Thank you for your reply, we've bought glass amber-coloured spray bottles to use for topical application. We think it might be a good idea to give her a few topical sprays a day (spaced out by a couple of hours) for 3 days, then give her a 4 day break, and then repeat the same procedure the next week, and so on. Do you think this could be a good approach? We are just very worried about giving her topical and oral at the same time! Please do correct me if I'm wrong though.

Can I also ask about Distilled Water? We have been giving her Ionized Water because we are worried about Distilled Water (the label on the Distilled Water we bought says in big bold writing "not for human consumption"), have been doing this wrong?

Thank you in advance, your advice is really appreciated

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15 Jan 2018 23:26 #57330 by CLO2
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You should probably not "give her a 4 day break" because that may allow pathogens to regroup after MMS has begun to eliminate them. Unless you continue dosing her internally. You could alternate ingestion and topical MMS so she is continually getting some CLO2 in her. If the combined ingestion and topical is too much for her, then reduce both until she does not have any negative side effects.

It is hard to believe that warning on distilled water! What else is in it? I would question the manufacturer as to why the warning.

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18 Jan 2018 11:35 #57355 by MWMW11
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Thank you for the reply.

We're going to call the manufacturer and ask what else is in the distilled water... I mean, I know that long-term consumption of distilled water is not recommended, but to label it generally "not for human consumption" is weird. Anyway, we have also bought some Aztec Clay to mix with Coconut Oil to rub on the cat's nose topically (we're worried she will lick off the Vaseline if we use Vaseline), hopefully that might have some effect as well. Hopefully it will not intervene with the MMS1+DMSO topical spray she is getting four times a day now. Otherwise, she is continuously having oral drops and seems to be fine with oral doses

Thank you again

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