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11 Jan 2024 07:49 #81027 by Mary Poppins II
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Hello again, and a late Newyear's greeting wishing you good health and safety in this new year 2024. 🌞

Since a link for a password reset doesn't show up, I've registered again. I'm now Mary Poppins II.

This is info for those who arrive as new members, just starting to learn and understand what CD is about, and some of the background, and Jim Humble, who initiated the use of CD in the 70's.

Lately I've found an interview with Jim Humble, in the Project Avalon Forum. The 2nd one, with the first in 2009. You'll find it in the archived material of Avalon Forum.
The date of the 2nd interview is 2010, and Jim presents his  experiences in Africa, treating Aids-Hiv, and Malaria, saving lives.

A clinic for CD treatment is Jim's wish, without fighting the established medical treatment with drugs.

Jim's cancer treatment is quite successful as well, with MMS1 and MMS2 combined. Jim explains what, and how it's done. 

The planning of a training school for MMS practitioners is mentioned by Jim also, located in the Dominican Republic.

Here's the company present in Jim's www.humble.biz site. I've sent an email asking for info how to buy CD ready to use, or the raw ingredients.

I'm not sure if individual orders are done, but healthcare is in the list of applications.
I find the system of desinfection, with a device using water, salt and electricity,  interesting.

If this is useful for human and animal ingestion I'm not sure, for I'm still waiting for a response. I'll let you know as soon as I receive an answer to my questions.

Here's the link:
www.watter.nl/en/applications/healthcare
For those of you living in Continental Europe, here's a reliable supplier of CD, either 2 components, or ready made.

Since many users don't appreciate the dose with citric acid much,  due to bad taste,  three kinds of acids are on offer, combined with the (in German) Natrium Chlorit: 25%:
www.vitalundfitmit100.de/CDS/CDL
I've used this supplier for at least 5 years, also for other substances, and their quality and service is good.

Here's the 2010 interview with Jim, a man who lived true to his last name. Jim passed away in Sept.  last year 2023:

projectavalon.net/Jim_Humble_Jan_2010.mp4
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11 Jan 2024 16:04 - 11 Jan 2024 16:06 #81034 by CLO2
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"I find the system of disinfection, with a device using water, salt and electricity, interesting. If this is useful for human and animal ingestion I'm not sure, for I'm still waiting for a response. I'll let you know as soon as I receive an answer to my questions." 

The device you are referring to is called an electrolyzer and can be used to make Hypochlorous Acid (HOCL) which is similar to Jim's MMS2. HOCL made with an electrolyzer can be very pure if the pH is in the correct range. HOCL is a type of chlorine. 

If the pH of HOCL is lower than the normal pH range for HOCL, it changes into chlorine and you would not want to ingest it as chlorine is a poison. If the pH of HOCL is higher than the normal pH range for HOCL, it changes into bleach. 

If HOCL is ingested into stomach acid, it could be changed into chlorine because of the very low pH of stomach acid. You may not want to ingest electrolyzer-made HOCL. For other uses, HOCL is an excellent oxidizer. HOCL is made in our bodies by white blood cells. 

   

 
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23 Dec 2024 20:12 #85123 by periwinkle
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I just found this other electrolyzer and noticed that it comes with the strips, fine mist sprayer and uses salt instead of powder. I'm thinking that it costs more, but salt is very inexpensive to buy.  

The sodium chlorite powder, on the other hand is costly for a small amount.

What type of salt does this use,  CLO2 ?

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23 Dec 2024 23:20 - 23 Dec 2024 23:29 #85124 by CLO2
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I just found this other electrolyzer and noticed that it comes with the strips, fine mist sprayer and uses salt instead of powder. I'm thinking that it costs more, but salt is very inexpensive to buy.  

The sodium chlorite powder, on the other hand is costly for a small amount.

What type of salt does this use,  CLO2 ? This what I use to make HOCL: 

 

 

 

You will also need pH test strips or a pH meter to be sure your HOCL recipe will give you HOCL and not chlorine or bleach. When you have tweaked the recipe, you should not have to measure pH or HOCL concentration (ppm) again, except to verify, from time-to-time, that nothing has changed. And you will want to use clean, filtered or distilled water. 


 
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31 Dec 2024 03:04 #85169 by periwinkle
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So I purchased this generator and now I'm wondering:  how can I be sure not to make it wrong?  Where should I test it?  I was thinking of making it outside because I'm worried I might make bleach or other poisonous version and I have cats so they are like little canaries in a coalmine.  

I was so thrilled and flabbergasted at how quickly I received this device from Amazon since so many items have been taking weeks to arrive.  What advice do you have,  CLO2  or anyone who makes hydrochlorous acid?

And, while I'm on it, what is the difference between hydrochloric acid and hydrochlorous acid?  Is there a difference?

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31 Dec 2024 16:39 - 31 Dec 2024 16:41 #85174 by CLO2
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So I purchased this generator and now I'm wondering:  how can I be sure not to make it wrong?  Where should I test it?  I was thinking of making it outside because I'm worried I might make bleach or other poisonous version and I have cats so they are like little canaries in a coalmine.  

I was so thrilled and flabbergasted at how quickly I received this device from Amazon since so many items have been taking weeks to arrive.  What advice do you have,  CLO2  or anyone who makes hydrochlorous acid? HOCL is Hypochlorous Acid. White blood cells manufacture HOCL on demand when needed. 

As I mentioned before, HOCL has many uses, but I would not ingest it into a stomach with very low pH stomach acid, which could change HOCL into Chlorine. 

And, while I'm on it, what is the difference between hydrochloric acid and hydrochlorous acid?  Is there a difference? I am not aware of hydrochlorous acid. I don't think hydrochlorous acid exists. 
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31 Dec 2024 17:00 #85175 by stu77000
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So I purchased this generator and now I'm wondering:  how can I be sure not to make it wrong?  Where should I test it?  I was thinking of making it outside because I'm worried I might make bleach or other poisonous version and I have cats so they are like little canaries in a coalmine.  

I was so thrilled and flabbergasted at how quickly I received this device from Amazon since so many items have been taking weeks to arrive.  What advice do you have,  CLO2  or anyone who makes hydrochlorous acid? HOCL is Hypochlorous Acid. White blood cells manufacture HOCL on demand when needed. 

As I mentioned before, HOCL has many uses, but I would not ingest it into a stomach with very low pH stomach acid, which could change HOCL into Chlorine. 

And, while I'm on it, what is the difference between hydrochloric acid and hydrochlorous acid?  Is there a difference? I am not aware of hydrochlorous acid. I don't think hydrochlorous acid exists. 


 

CLO2, what is your opinion on Jim's method if ingesting HOCL/MMS2. Is that safe?

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01 Jan 2025 01:31 - 01 Jan 2025 01:33 #85179 by CLO2
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Personally, I have not ingested MMS2. Apparently many people have and successfully fixed their ailments, so it must be safe and effective to take. As usual, begin taking MMS2 with a tiny amount of powder in a capsule and slowly increase as needed. 
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01 Jan 2025 22:04 #85185 by periwinkle
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So I meant hypochlorous acid.  Is this MMS2?  

I understand that MMS2 is not for animals.  Is this correct?
 

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02 Jan 2025 03:53 #85189 by CLO2
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So I meant hypochlorous acid.  Is this MMS2?  MMS2 can provide HOCL when it is added to water. 

I understand that MMS2 is not for animals.  Is this correct? You can use MMS2 with some animals. Below is from Jim's 2019 book: 

"Column 4: MMS2 dosage for animals. MMS2 is difficult with animals and normally you don't have to use MMS2, but if your animal seems resistant to getting better you may want to try it. In that case these are the amounts your animal needs every two hours while on Protocol 2000-the same as with humans. (Read the instructions for Protocol 2000 and adding MMS2 on pages 91-95, and read pages 22-24.) The amounts of MMS2 given in Column 4 of the Animal Dosage Chart 2 (page 302), are the maximum amounts to give. Start the animal out with a much smaller dosage than is on the chart and then work up gradually to the amount given. Do not give any more than this amount 5 times a day, (separate each MMS2 dose by two hours)." 


 
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