My version of gout didn’t respond to mms

Just putting it out there that for those that don’t respond well to mms for gout, I tried fermented foods like apple cider vinegar and kifir and it helped.. I’m no doctor… so consult an expert before trying anything I suggest 



 

living_the_life wrote:

Just putting it out there that for those that don’t respond well to mms for gout, I tried fermented foods like apple cider vinegar and kifir and it helped.. I’m no doctor… so consult an expert before trying anything I suggest 

 

There are many positive testimonials about MMS1 helping people who had gout. Hard to know why it did not work for you.

Could be caused by high amounts of strong antioxidants in your body from drinking coffee or teas in the morning, waiting an hour and then dosing MMS1, which does not work because coffee and teas stay active in the body up to 12 hours. 

I improved my situation by going at it scientifically… trying everything… mms1…mms2…hydration….baking soda…ect… nothing improved my situation

Stumped and dumbfounded … and in pain … I had to try the opposite if I was going to claim to be scientific about it… some online claimed fermented foods helped them with gout… as crazy as it sounds I tried it… the next day I was back on my feet with 80% reduction in pain… and my medication that had lost effectiveness (indomethacin) suddenly worked amazingly well again… like the clock was wound back 5 years

I’m sorry it’s news you don’t like… but I ask you to investigate my claim… your response has a bias… there are very few gout mms testimonials… many people with gout may see no relief and move on to seek other answers without leaving you data …


I’m not just leaving data… I’m going to make a claim based on what happened to me… my version of gout would be impossible to cure with mms… apparently some bacteria eat uric acid or it’s precursors… the stumach is a two way street chemicals go from high concentration to low… uric acid building up in the body finds its way back into the GI track and gets eaten by good guy bacteria….

For me eliminating parasites would not have worked… why do we host them in the first place…

This good news lead me to ask google new questions…. What organism causes gout… my jaw hit the floor when I read this study…if true it explains everything I experienced plus it makes very wild claims … I implore you to read it with a scientific eye

Intestinal Microbiota Distinguish Gout Patients from Healthy Humans

www.nature.com/articles/srep20602

Abstract
Current blood-based approach for gout diagnosis can be of low sensitivity and hysteretic. Here via a 68-member cohort of 33 healthy and 35 diseased individuals, we reported that the intestinal microbiota of gout patients are highly distinct from healthy individuals in both organismal and functional structures. In gout, Bacteroides caccae and Bacteroides xylanisolvens are enriched yet Faecalibacterium prausnitzii and Bifidobacterium pseudocatenulatum depleted. The established reference microbial gene catalogue for gout revealed disorder in purine degradation and butyric acid biosynthesis in gout patients. In an additional 15-member validation-group, a diagnosis model via 17 gout-associated bacteria reached 88.9% accuracy, higher than the blood-uric-acid based approach. Intestinal microbiota of gout are more similar to those of type-2 diabetes than to liver cirrhosis, whereas depletion of Faecalibacterium prausnitzii and reduced butyrate biosynthesis are shared in each of the metabolic syndromes. Thus the Microbial Index of Gout was proposed as a novel, sensitive and non-invasive strategy for diagnosing gout via fecal microbiota.

living_the_life wrote:

I improved my situation by going at it scientifically… trying everything… mms1…mms2…hydration….baking soda…ect… nothing improved my situation

Stumped and dumbfounded … and in pain … I had to try the opposite if I was going to claim to be scientific about it… some online claimed fermented foods helped them with gout… as crazy as it sounds I tried it… the next day I was back on my feet with 80% reduction in pain… and my medication that had lost effectiveness (indomethacin) suddenly worked amazingly well again… like the clock was wound back 5 years

I’m sorry it’s news you don’t like… but I ask you to investigate my claim… your response has a bias… there are very few gout mms testimonials… I have read about 28 gout CLO2 testimonials. Twenty at MMStestimonials.co and 8 at  t.me/theuniversalantidote That is more than a few testimonials. 

I have no bias in my responses, but I do remind CLO2 users that strong antioxidants such as coffee can keep CLO2 from working for many hours. Sorry you don't like my responses. By the way, I earn nothing from the time I spend trying to help others, if they will listen. I wish you all the best in your search for recovery from gout. 

many people with gout may see no relief and move on to seek other answers without leaving you data …


I’m not just leaving data… I’m going to make a claim based on what happened to me… my version of gout would be impossible to cure with mms… apparently some bacteria eat uric acid or it’s precursors… the stumach is a two way street chemicals go from high concentration to low… uric acid building up in the body finds its way back into the GI track and gets eaten by good guy bacteria….

For me eliminating parasites would not have worked… why do we host them in the first place…

This good news lead me to ask google new questions…. What organism causes gout… my jaw hit the floor when I read this study…if true it explains everything I experienced plus it makes very wild claims … I implore you to read it with a scientific eye

Intestinal Microbiota Distinguish Gout Patients from Healthy Humans

www.nature.com/articles/srep20602

Abstract
Current blood-based approach for gout diagnosis can be of low sensitivity and hysteretic. Here via a 68-member cohort of 33 healthy and 35 diseased individuals, we reported that the intestinal microbiota of gout patients are highly distinct from healthy individuals in both organismal and functional structures. In gout, Bacteroides caccae and Bacteroides xylanisolvens are enriched yet Faecalibacterium prausnitzii and Bifidobacterium pseudocatenulatum depleted. The established reference microbial gene catalogue for gout revealed disorder in purine degradation and butyric acid biosynthesis in gout patients. In an additional 15-member validation-group, a diagnosis model via 17 gout-associated bacteria reached 88.9% accuracy, higher than the blood-uric-acid based approach. Intestinal microbiota of gout are more similar to those of type-2 diabetes than to liver cirrhosis, whereas depletion of Faecalibacterium prausnitzii and reduced butyrate biosynthesis are shared in each of the metabolic syndromes. Thus the Microbial Index of Gout was proposed as a novel, sensitive and non-invasive strategy for diagnosing gout via fecal microbiota.