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11 Nov 2012 02:28 #26280 by fourfingerz
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vector wrote: Not sure what you just said about adjusting the reactor. I thought it was 25 drops=1ml(do you think the extra 10 drops would make a big difference). However: I just infused the receptor chamber again...3.7 grams of both CA & SC in 3 tsp of DW, No syringe yet so to test I used 25 drops of solution to 250 drops of DW= almost no change/ maybe just over the 100 shade. I am following directions on the test strips. So far this is 11.1 grams of material for a PPM of maybe 1000. Something is bad wrong somewhere.

After about a minute in the reactor chamber, the mixture of CA & SC is a dark brown color and after 5 min, with air pump set on low, the reactor mixture is a light pale yellow. All chambers are plastic water bottles. I did not wear the 3M mask and notice no overpowering smell.

This may be operator error...though not sure how.

Any ideas?


If you are trying to do a multiplication factor of 10 for the test strips I believe you should be doing 25 drops (1 ml) of solution in 225 drops (9 ml) of DW.

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11 Nov 2012 02:44 #26281 by vector
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Is it 1 to 9 or 1 to 10???

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11 Nov 2012 04:15 #26283 by fourfingerz

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11 Nov 2012 13:13 - 11 Nov 2012 13:37 #26297 by vector
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Occam's Razor anyone...I shall ensure my setup is correct, try it again and test 1:100.
Last edit: 11 Nov 2012 13:37 by vector. Reason: shorten the post

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12 Nov 2012 03:20 #26346 by vector
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Retest at 1ml:100ml....slightly above 2500

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12 Nov 2012 11:43 #26385 by pam
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Certainly useable, you may want to adjust the doseage amount. Use 1.2mL to be the equivalent of 3 drops of mms.

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12 Nov 2012 13:18 #26393 by vector
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I have 2 bottles and only tested the PPM on the first bottle in line(the first in line of the series). The first bottle now contains less than the original 300ml started with. The second bottle contains a bit more than 300ml since I poured the completed reactor solution from each cook into the 2nd bottle(bad idea?). I think I will run one more cook, use both receivers, test each separately and if the PPM is high enough in both, combine the two bottles into one big one(~650ml) and then retest, which is NOW a lot easier(thanks Pam)since I'm not counting drops.

My critical thinking is lacking in logic sometimes so I would appreciate some review and suggestions.

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13 Nov 2012 04:03 #26453 by vector
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I poured the reactor solution in bottle #2...you think it will skew the PPM and make the reading unreliable?

This next comment will bring to full display my rookie status:


"PPM is PPM" no matter the source, unless we are worried/concerned about an unknown effect of mixing MMS & CDS
with a caveat of the possibility of the MMS causing stomach discomfort.

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13 Nov 2012 18:45 #26472 by vector
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Latest update. 11/13..1:30p

Upgraded the batch again. Weighted all solids, Measured 3 tsp of DW, Sealed all tubing, hovered the exit tube above the solution in the reactor chamber.

PPM test ratio of 100ml Distilled Water to 1ml of solution

The first bottle in sequence shading is just low of 50
The second bottle in sequence shading is right on 10

At what rate should the contents of bottle #1 be applied? Would Bottle #1 solution be considered equal to 5 drops of MMS(activated) while #2 equal to 1 to 1 MMS, or have I screwed #2 PPM equation up by pouring the remaining contents of the reactor solution in bottle #2?

Ain't this fun!!

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13 Nov 2012 19:29 #26473 by pam
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Welcome to the fun we had when CDS first came out and we were all running around testing and trying to figure it out. I was excited when the shotglass method came out, since I had friends who could do that, with it's pretty well guaranteed ppm per dose, vs some of the other methods. I'll let charlotte answer your question, since I'm not up on the 3 minute procedure.

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