Shotglass method to make CDS
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5. Cover the jar with a cloth
This is confusing. If I close the plastic lid why cover it with a cloth? Should I take the tight cover off mine?
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The towel is NOT a substitution for the lid in these directions, as I understand it.
I'm going to play today. Will let you guys know what happens.
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I store the 4 ounces of 1500 ppm CDS in the fridge and add 2cc/ml to 4 oz water in a drinking glass to make a (3 drops MMS1 equivalent) dose for the protocol 1000.
3 cc/ml each of chlorite and citric acid solutions (activated MMS1) in a glass shotglass (glass since we don't know if plastic reacting to MMS creates harmful byproducts) can be used instead of counting drops and is more accurate.
I use a wide mouth glass honey jar (3.5 inches diameter and 3.5 inches tall) with plastic lid. I cover it with cloth to protect it from light degradation and in case the glass should shatter.
To test the finished CDS I used the LaMotte test strips. I diluted 1 cc/ml CDS with 29 cc/ml water and got a reading of 50 ppm from the test strip. 50 multiplied 30 times renders 1500 ppm for the actual undiluted CDS.
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I will tell you what I did.
Around 4pm yesterday
My dropper bottles have the accudrop tip which holds 24 drops = 1mL (tested)
I made a regular day's dose of 1 quart with 24 activated drops of MMS, and put it in my fridge, tightly covered. I will test it for ppms today.
I took a half-gallon wide mouth jar (2 quarts) filled with 1 quart of distilled water, and 24 drops of MMS/CA in a shot glass, and set the shot glass into the jar with the water. It floated. I put a plastic lid on tight, and put it in my root cellar. Will check this morning, when I get off the computer, and will test for ppm's - the only confounding variable is that the floor of my root cellar is cold - (concrete). This is to check for making a daily 1 quart dose. I will compare the ppms with the regular day's dose above.
Setup for the 1/2 gallon
Clearer photo of setup
Placing the shotglass
Plastic wide mouth caps that work for all of the Ball wide mouth jars.
I took a wide mouth pint jar (2 cups) and put in 4 oz of distilled water. I tested 3mL of MMS/CA activated, and set the shot glass in it the jar. I put the plastic lid on tight, and it joined the half-gallon jar in the root cellar. Will check this morning for ppms' This is for making the stronger CDS, which you would then add to a quart for a daily dose. The advantage, of course, is that if the CDS is fine, you can adjust the amount of CDS in your dose to make various strengths of doses.
Set up for the pint jar - I use separate syringes for the MMS and for the CA so that they don't contaminate the storage fluids.
Does anyone want anything else tested?
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I wish that I had a 40oz jar to do the daily dose in. a quart jar is just not big enough. Although.... I guess I could make it with 7 cups of water, and then add an 8th when it was done.
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1. My control MMS, which had been in the fridge, 24 drops MMS, 24 drops CDS, 20 second activation, 1 quart distilled water. It tested at 25ppm, dipping the 1-500 test strip directly into the water. I made a fresh batch (just in case the 16 hours in the fridge had caused a lessening of ppms) and it still tested out to 25ppm. (note: because I'm using testing strips here, everything is +/-, but the colors were so close, they appeared the same. Something to hold in your mind - when you activate 24 drops of MMS/CA, not everything there is chlorine dioxide gas - there is still some citric acid not activated, and probably some of the remaining 20% of whatever is in the sodium Chlorite 80%.... so since I was measuring only the Chlorine dioxide, I got 25ppm. With the MMS, there is still some activation that goes on in the stomach - so ultimate ppms can be higher, but there's no way to test how high.)
2. My 1 quart (day's dose) CDS in distilled water, 24 drops MMS, 24 drops CDS in a shot glass, sitting in 1 quart of distilled water, which had been on the floor of the root cellar was a surprise. It tested at 100ppm - just sticking the testing strip into the quart of water - so it made a much stronger dose of CDS. Most of the MMS/CA had gone into the water and the residual in the shot glass was not quite clear, but very close.
3. I diluted the quart with an additional quart of water, and got it down to 50ppm. This makes a 2 day batch, and it will keep in the fridge for that long, no problem.
4. I then took 2 oz of the day's dose CDS and added it to 2 oz of distilled water (since I didn't have a gallon jar to dilute it to) and got it down to 25ppm. (again, everything is approx, closest color was 25ppm). Now, thinking about this, why did it happen? Well, remember in the video where jim blew the cds into the daily dose water, and remember how with 24 drops, he got 3 bottles, not one? I think at the end that he asked Mark about the desired ppm and Mark said 35 to 50. [This is my memory, will have to go back to review the tape].
5. My small pint jar, with the 60cc of mms and ca is currently testing at 1000 ppm, using the 1cc of the CDS and 9 cc of the distilled water to test. This was also a surprise - I thought it would be higher, but there was quite a bit of MMS/CA that had not turned into Chlorine Dioxide - IOW, the liquid in the shot glass was still quite yellow. This may be because it was sitting on the cold floor, and there was less water (4 oz) to buffer the cold???? Or because there was more to offgas? (1 vs 3cc) I don't know. I've placed the shot glass back in the pint jar and will let it continue to "work" and see what happens. I would love to let it continue to "work" until the shot glass contains clear fluid, and then test.
My thoughts - at this moment, the best bang for your buck would be the daily dose CDS, diluted to make 2 days worth of CDS (item number 3, leaving it at 50ppm, not doing the second dilution of 2oz of distilled water and 2 oz of CDS) - Remember, this had a 16 hour "make" - so it's going to be stronger than Sandy's, which was a much shorter "make" - (neither is right or wrong, just different outcomes)
Additional experiments might be
a. to shorten the make time to see what, say, 8 hours or 12 hours would do (this will not be the most efficient use of the MMS/CA, though) for item 2.
or b. to lower the number of drops to 12 activated at the longer time, for item 3 (this might just make a day's dose, not 2 day's)
or c. to make up a 4 oz with the 24 drops, over short or long times, and add water to take it to 32 oz for a days dose.
Or d. to make up a 4 oz with 12 drops, over short or long times, and add water to take it to a 32 oz daily dose.
I'm going to play with c. and d. using, once again, the 16 hour period. I'll start again this afternoon.
If anyone else wants to play along, please feel free.
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Very good post and scientific approach!!
(Way off topic - but - beautiful counter top!!!!
pam wrote: Sungazer - thanks. You're testing 20 drops, then 40 drops, then 60 drops, according to various posts in the thread. So, I'm still a bit confused.
I will tell you what I did.
Around 4pm yesterday
My dropper bottles have the accudrop tip which holds 24 drops = 1mL (tested)
I made a regular day's dose of 1 quart with 24 activated drops of MMS, and put it in my fridge, tightly covered. I will test it for ppms today.
I took a half-gallon wide mouth jar (2 quarts) filled with 1 quart of distilled water, and 24 drops of MMS/CA in a shot glass, and set the shot glass into the jar with the water. It floated. I put a plastic lid on tight, and put it in my root cellar. Will check this morning, when I get off the computer, and will test for ppm's - the only confounding variable is that the floor of my root cellar is cold - (concrete). This is to check for making a daily 1 quart dose. I will compare the ppms with the regular day's dose above.
Setup for the 1/2 gallon
Clearer photo of setup
Placing the shotglass
Plastic wide mouth caps that work for all of the Ball wide mouth jars.
I took a wide mouth pint jar (2 cups) and put in 4 oz of distilled water. I tested 3mL of MMS/CA activated, and set the shot glass in it the jar. I put the plastic lid on tight, and it joined the half-gallon jar in the root cellar. Will check this morning for ppms' This is for making the stronger CDS, which you would then add to a quart for a daily dose. The advantage, of course, is that if the CDS is fine, you can adjust the amount of CDS in your dose to make various strengths of doses.
Set up for the pint jar - I use separate syringes for the MMS and for the CA so that they don't contaminate the storage fluids.
Does anyone want anything else tested?
Martin
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Thank you for all the careful detail and photos. This is looking like a great way for people to make CDS without special equipment or any chances of gassing themselves or having little gas explosions which can happen with other methods. It seems very safe and effective.
Thanks also to you sungazer for inventing this and reporting on it!
Everyone please do continue to test and report your results and we'll optimize this method.
Someone reported to me that Andreas Kalcker gave this CDS protocol for cancer: 10ml of 3000ppm CDS plus 100ml water 10-12 times a day taken every hour. When you use the dilution calculator ( endmemo.com/bio/dilution.php ) on this it is showing a 272 ppm drinking solution. So we might come up with a recipe that will yield about 300 ppm CDS and that would be good for a cancer protocol to take 110 ml of it each hour.
Thanks to everyone working on this new method and reporting on it!
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And to sort of take this back on topic (since it's making and using it) - if you have a stone counter, you need to be very careful with the citric acid. I try not to even put my HDPE bottle on the counter, just in case there's some citric acid lurking somewhere on the bottle.
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