Shotglass method to make CDS

OK, this afternoon, after 24 hrs, I pulled pint jar with 4 oz of water and 60ccs each of the mms and ca out and tested it. There was still quite a bit that had not activated in the shot glass and the water tested to 1000ppm/L - This surprised me because I expected after 26 hrs for all the mms/CA to be activated.

Then at 6pm, I made up 2 of the pint jars with 4 oz of water, one with 8 drops mms activated in the shot glass and another with 12 drops mms activated in the shot glass. We will see what that does in the AM. I would like to get the to the point where I can use a pint jar to make the CDS and just add extra water to get to a quart, making it the night before and having it ready for the AM. We shall see.

I think that this could be a problem with saturation.

Water could hold (get saturated) only certain amount of CD, which is also further diminished by the fact that there's also so much available space (air) in which CD could also be. This is a problem with keeping CDS, if CD has air to evaporate from water, it just goes there (evaporates).

But, making daily doses is certainly easy way to make CDS. It's not that hard, you can make it each day for the other day and use it all up. So the loss of CD is minimal.

I would agree with you, but since I've seen supersaturated CD in water (I've personally done 12,500 ppm and JH has done, I think, twice that), I'm not so sure. I'm leaning toward it being a function of the temps. My root cellar is rarely above 50 degrees - (which is why I did it there) - I have some working in a cupboard in the kitchen (where it gets into the 60's) - Will know more this morning. And I could be totally wrong,

Pam

OK, both the pint jars with 4 oz of water, one with 8 drops activated and one with 12 drops activated totaled 250ppm after 14.5 hrs. (Had to make a trip into town to purchase more distilled water at WalMart) So those two tests I consider a fail.

The quart jar, which had 2 cups of water, and 12 drops activated, and was kept in the cupboard, after I added an additional 2 cups of water to make 1 quart (a day's dose) measured 50ppm/L,, which is an acceptable dose for the day.

So, to make 1 day's dose:
Use a quart glass jar, marked off into 8ths, with a plastic top. (Old mayo jar, pickle jar, or a ball canning jar, whatever) -
pour in 2 cups of distilled water
set aside
In a shot glass, put 12 drops of 50% citric acid and 12 drops of MMS - swirl once or twice to mix the drops,
Place the shot glass into the quart glass jar so that it floats
Put the lid on snugly
Place in a cupboard

After 14 hours (maybe only 12 would do, just didn't test 12) -
Remove quart jar from cupboard
remove shot glass from jar, without spilling contents into the liquid
Add 2 more cups of distilled water to quart jar, making 32 oz
Drink at 4 oz per hour, for 8 hours.
Store in a cool environment (padded lunchbox with ice keeper)

If you are quite toxic, since this is at the upper range of the PPMs, I would make this change for the first 2 days. After stirring the quart jar with 32 oz of liquid in it, using a plastic or wooden spoon, I would take another quart jar and pour half the 32 oz liquid into it, and fill each jar back up with distilled water again. Use one jar of this extra diluted mixture each day for the first 2 days, then go to a one jar (not extra diluted) from that point on.

Remember, CDS smells very strong, but it does not taste strong like it smells.


There are some thoughts I had - still not sure about why the 4oz failed. Maybe it needed more water (the saturation issue that Alan mentioned), maybe it was the temp - and another thought that came to me was that maybe the CD is actually heavier than the gasses in water, and since I didn't stir the 4oz mixtures up before I extracted the mL to test with, maybe they were stronger than I thought. However, the color was still relatively light, and looked consistent all the way through the 4oz.

GREAT PAM! I was waiting for you to finish with your post with Alan. I wrote this all down. SOunds very simple. Now ot do this next week for sure thank you so much Pam for your time and effort into this. YOu have been such a great help

Megg

I made my second shot glass batch and this time I put it in the glass jar with the tight plastic top. I mixed two shot glasses with 30/30 sdops each and placed them both in the glass jar. I put the jar int he closed and waited 23 hours before transferring it to a bottle and testing it. This time it tested at almost 2,500 (250 on the test strip container). I may try setting it in the sun to see if that will help raise the ppm.

Will be interesting to see, Sandy. Was the fluid in the shot glasses clear? (i.e. had all the gas gone out?)

Not quite clear but after a few hours in the fridge to clean that out it became clear.

It's clear when all the gas has come out.
Pam

just to be sure...is my CDS suppose to have a yellowish color when it is done sitting in the cupboard? it is still that color after being in frige also yes?