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sorry, yes 4% HCL no citric acid.

I imagine there are several variables as to how long a capsule lasts.
60 seconds so far the minimum to "open" more like 90 most times I believe.
As MMS activation is 20 30 60 or more seconds depending on your objective..you do not need to watch capsule activate.
Add drops, assemble, swallow with water.
In 60-90 seconds the "explosion" will go off in stomach and the healing process begins.

Obviously Green Vibrance does not know all their information - even the NIH with Dr. Levy has stated Vitamin C stays in the body 24 hours - so to say it all cycles out in 4-6 hours is incorrect. (I'm reading Levy's "Primal Panacea" on Vitamin C.

www.amazon.com/Primal-Panacea-Thomas-E-Levy/dp/0983772800/

penwah114, If you have 4% HCL and want to make CDS, use twice as much and you should be okay.

To make CDH, 4% is correct.

So, then why is it ok to take and wait 2 hours before using mms or is that just conjecture? if is stays 24 hrs then am I wasting my mms? I am only detoxing for myself so what does anyone suggest for taking both mms and my green vibrance, moringa and dynamic cuo with oj. I was thinking I could wait 3-6 hours and then start on the mms. Is there any experience with that? Thanks, Penny

Thank you. I was thinking about capsules for my dogs, but I think this will not work. I don't think I can get them to take the pill that quickly and get the water in their system that fast.

A recent post tells us antioxidants last 24 hours (in some cases) in system.
It is my opinion MMS may still work with what you want to use.
It is also my opinion that MMS will work a lot better and faster with less time and drops needed if one adhere's to Oxidative therapy protocols, ie no antiox.
It is a misnomer to think antioxidants help us defeat disease.
And I am unconvinced supplements are complete or correct or absorbable.
Oxidation is the remedy for disease.
We see now (based n other post info) that Vit C lasts longer in system than previously thought.
I can tell you that taking MMS close to OJ will produce vomit.
The scientific equation MMS+OJ=vomit..
If you use things that diminish the power of MMS you need more MMS longer.
I do not know the individual properties of the items you wish to use, but I am offering this; antioxidants deter oxidative healing.
Two hours has been standard.
But if you want to wait more that is fine.
If you can drop any diminishing products and let MMS do its job, you will see results faster, in less time. MMS is a short therapy most times.

An option I see is to do your selection of therapies in AM and MMS at night.
MMS lasts only two hours so another way could be MMS all day, do your program at night.
MMS works good while you sleep too so....
No matter what way you decide, MMS will do something most likely.
Also MMS may spark you awake in AM and you may find your need for morning rituals diminish or change.

As to dogs..
try HCl activator for less taste and place in non metal water bowl with regular water.
I have not had a dog refuse MMS when activated with Citric Acid either so you may well do fine putting MMS in water dish.

I will definitely try the mms in the water first as they may take it (opposed to syringe). I want to control it as my cats also drink out of one of the bowls as well.

the mm2 for the second dog is because he has a very large tumor and I have read that I should start that protocol 3 days after starting mms1. I am thinking of using the baby bottle method for all of us so I can track easier. I have read people with pets have given mms2 with food - I am very concerned about using the mms2 as I may not be able to get enough water into his system after taking and if that is the case what are the ramifications? Dogs can just clench their teeth and any water even syringed in will just fall out the side of their mouths and this dog in particular will not eat anything any time, he will turn away as in thinking I can put down broth after giving mms2 and he will drink it. This is why I am looking for advice from people who have experience using with animals.

As for me and my energy/moringa/green vibrance that I take every morning. I will wait 6 hours and do my mms in the evening as I am only using mms for detox and maintenance.

Do you have pets that you have used this with? Why the huge difference in dosages? ie. one drop per hour vs. one drop per day. That is a very big difference and I am wondering why.

Thank you, Penny

Hi Penny

Animal protocol 1 drop dose per 25 pounds of animal, hourly is the guide.
Using CDS for tumor applications, better with DMSO.
DMSO is used and sold in Vet shops across the globe.
It is also used to transdermally introduce drugs to horse cattle and more.

A couple things,
1) MMS2 in food. Not enough water in my opinion.
2) unactivated MMS in water bowl, to me seems like could cause nausea etc from unactivated MMS activating in stomach with bodies supply of Hydrocloric acid.
As I understand CDH, CDH is longer activation which reduces or eliminates nausea due to FULL activation external to body.
So I feel that its an error to put MMS2 in food, and also to put unactive MMS1 in water bowl.

That said
How I treat animals is simple.
I add 5-10 active drops to water bowl adding more over the day.
Once the MMS starts to work, appetite will return.

Mark Grenon leaves MMS and Moringa for Native Peoples in Columbia etc, so the two are compatible but I do not yet know the procedure/protocol for Moringa and MMS. Actually Mark was leaving CDS.

Try changing title of thread or PM Jeffers and or blessed1
they are both very helpful animal lovers

If your dog will take MMS with a broth, go ahead and use that. I have some baby food meats that I'll take a little bit and put it in the syringe for my cats.

Moringa is taken 2 hrs after the final dose. Have no idea how long it stays active in the system.....