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I am using capsules for mms2. I am planning on mms2 as premixing for the day and dosing each hour. However I want to be sure the premixing for the day does not produce cdh as I am reading cdh is still not fully known for cancer etc. If my premixing in baby bottle produces cdh I will have to make each dose as I go to be sure it is mms1. did that make sense. This can get very confusing.

I just typoed above, mms1 for premixing and dosing throughout the day in water, syringe broth or food, mms2 in capsules

is that the consensus, that moringa does not effect mms?
Thanks, Penny

Hi Penny
As I understand Moringa it has a high Vit C content.
Therefore Moringa and MMS should not be taken together.

MMS1 in capsules or broth or water
MMS2 in capsules taken with water

CDH is most ikely as powerful or more than MMS1
CDH is ALL the ingredients of MM1 with a longer activation time to reduce nausea from inactivated MMS.
CDH is made by adding MMS and Activator to water.
What you may be doing is activating MMS and adding to water. Slight difference.
I am confident CDH will do everything MMS does. And possibly better.
But the bottom line is, even if you went back ten years in rotocols and simply did it old fashioned way.... you will get results.
Point being, this seems confusing at times but in reality is quite basic science/chemistry that I'm hoping one day will be taught in elementary school Science classes. Soon this will all make sense. And you will be able to help others.

It is not that X Y Z protocols don't work, it is that here on Forum we are working the leading edge of experimentation, and new methods of using MMS as well as provide support for users of MMS.
Here is the latest and greatest info available.
Cutting edge....

Have no fear of CDH, it is same as MMS but possibly more powerful, less nausea and I am expecting bigger results from CDH than MMS.
Time will tell.

Now I am more confused. I would rather use cdh.

so, am I making cdh when I add the mms and hcl 4% to my baby bottle in the am? Will this method be better tasting with less nausea? I thought someone said just 10 min of this mixed in this way makes cdh. (thought it was truthquester responding - not 100% sure about that) Now I dose this at 3 drops cdh = 1 drop of mms1. I want to start out at 1/4 drop which would equal 3/4 drop of cdh. I don't have the test strips and want to start, is that a big deal? I think if I follow protocols my results should be the same. I will be using distilled water.


I watched Jim Humbles video and thought he said cds is more potent than mms1 without the taste and nausea so why more drops. I know he said it will last longer -- will get more doses.

Let me be clearer: I will add water to the baby bottle after waiting the 60 seconds or do I just put the water in the baby bottle first and add the mms and hcl and that makes cdh within 10 minutes? I don't have instructions if front of me but it sounds like there is a difference.

or I can do the 12 hour method (or is it longer because I am using 4% hcl or do I have to do it twice), but don't have test strips. will just hope the concentration is right? is that not recommended? I didn't order the test strips because I didn't think the cdh was proven for cancer. But it sounds to me like the cdh is now for sure the way I want to go and I will track and post my results.

Thank you in advance. I am sure this is more confusing because I don't actually have the product yet nor am I using it, but it is confusing.

CDH - ways to make it and dosing. That is what I would like absolute details on.

I feel I also need to state that when I say the baby bottle method I am not talking about using Jim Humbles baby bottle with tubing, I just mean using baby bottles to store and its easy to see the ounces consumed. and in fact Jim did drink the cds right after the gases were infused into the water bottle. so, how do I do that without using tubing? and can it be done in minutes rather than hours. Jim tested at just above 2500 ppm pretty much right away. I will search threads for more on this so I stop bugging you.

Penny

Hi, Penny. Yes, all the different ways to make MMS are confusing, at first.

Here is a PDF file that discusses making CDH, mostly. It is updated often as new info is discovered. For instance, the third way to make CDH, capsule method, lists two recipes. The second recipe is going to change in a few days as a newer recipe is more stable over time.

www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/infosheet_cdh.pdf

After reading the PDF file, if you still have questions, please ask us!

The easiest CDH method is the One Bottle Method which takes about 12 hours to finish activating. You can also watch a very short YouTube video slide show on making it.



OK, the YT link is not working here at the forum, its supposed to play right here, but that is broken. MADS???

So, here is another link to watch it:

mmsinfo.org/videos/cdh_one_bottle_mms_hb.mp4

I also use an 8 fl oz glass baby bottle for dosing. Works great for me.

Penwah114 -- I have been following most of this thread - I am responding due to the animal part. I don't understand, nor have I used CDH, so I can't help there.

I dose my dogs with 25 -30 drops of unactivated mms in 1/2 gal of reverse osmosis water. As per, info from Kwag and Sevenrays (they said 30 to 40 drops in 1 gal., but I do 25 or so in 1/2 gal and no problems, the dogs drink it right up. Kwag and Sevenrays said the acid in the dogs stomach will activate the MMS.

Seven rays said

the problem with activated MMS in water is that it's a gas and it won't last very long. As a matter of fact, a couple of hours once you put the MMS in, there's no more gas left, because the chlorine dioxide will evaporate very quickly, so you'll lose the effect. When you just add the sodium chlorite to the water, that will last way over a week, and the activation will happen (in small doses) in the dogs stomach

Even so I change my dog's water at least every other day, but mostly every day, to be sure they are getting plenty of it. I DO NOT put the unactivated MMS in an open bowl either. I have a closed container that holds most of the water in an enclosed place. They drink it with no problem. In fact, it almost seems they drink more than they used to - means it must taste good to them - , so they are getting more of it, good for my sick one and also healthy one.

When I first started out with MMS I had one very sick dog. He is only 16 pounds so according to Jim's dosing of animals, he was only to have 1/2 drop. I couldn't figure out how to make 1/2 drop. I was also giving him DMSO in the water. When I give him his MMS dose, it was an activated dose via a syringe" - see below quote from Pam

Pam told me

I would suggest not doing the DMSO, DMSO takes a little bit of time, but ultimately it will "kill" the MMS, so leaving it in a water dish just inactivates the MMS. You can make a dose any size. If it's 1 drop, activated, in say - an ounce of water, then just add half of the mixture to his water dish. Or, if you're make it for a syringe, again, make 1 drop, add the water, and then throw half of it away -- will equal 1/2 drop

She also said that if I was to give him DMSO, then it should be in the syringe, with the MMS, but not in the drinking water.

When I dosed my dog, I gave it to him in a syringe, was very easy to do - the first couple of times, he wasn't real happy, but that's why they call it "TOUGH LOVE". I put the syringe in towards the back of his mouth, just through his teeth and very slowly pushed the liquid in, so he had a chance to swallow - if you do it all at once, it gags them and they hate it. I also took a tiny piece of his treat (small square of regular shredded wheat (no sugar, just plain) and placed it where he could see it, he knew after each dose, he was going to get it and so didn't mind it at all. THE MMS was also activated MMS, so it may have tasted better to him.

All I know is that it worked for him and he is doing great now. You can go on www.genesis2church.is - in the animal section and read his testimony.

If I can be of any help to you - please let me know.

Jim Humble says to use activated MMS with our pets :

For dosing animals, we are always talking about using MMS1 in the
form that is currently sold. That is 22.4% sodium chlorite. Don’t be
fooled by the bottle saying 28% sodium chlorite powder. That is true,
but the powder is only 80% sodium chlorite. Eighty percent of 28%
is 22.4%.

When using MMS1, always make sure that it is activated with either
citric acid or (in a pinch) vinegar. Use 5 drops of 10% citric acid per
drop of MMS1. Other acids can be used, but most of the technology
has been developed with a 10% solution of citric acid or a 50%
solution of citric acid which is more concentrated and easier to use
– just one drop for each drop of MMS1. You can buy citric acid in
50 pound sacks (25 kg sacks) and it is very cheap. MMS1 is always
activated. Thus, when I say “2 drops of MMS1”, you will always know
that you must activate each drop with either 5 drops of 10% citric acid
or one drop of 50% citric acid. See Chapter 12, General Procedural
Information for more about making MMS